Interview by Robin White at Crown Point Press, Oakland, California, 1980. OUT OF PRINT
40 pages. With black & white illustrations. 9 x 7 inches.
"Here we are in 1980 with people struggling to maintain the idea of the avant garde but nowhere else to go. It just seems much more comfortable to say: well, I don't care. I can view what I'm doing as a continuation and a slight update of a vast conservative tradition. The traditional, as I would contrast it to the avant garde, is behind the theme of decoration."