Interview by Robin White at Crown Point Press, Oakland, California, June 1978.
16 pages. With black & white illustrations. 9 x 7 inches.
"Left to itself art would have to e something very simple - it would be sufficient for it to be beautiful. But when it's useful it would spil out of just being beautiful and move over to other aspects of life so that when we're not with the art it has nevertheless influenced our actions or our repsonses."